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📣 lnenad

Did Anthropic Just Win?


Not trying to cause drama, I feel the title is a bit too much but it's 100% how I feel. I'm genuinely curious what others think. I know there are a lot of people with more knowledge and info than me so I thought here is a good place to ask.

Personally how I see it, benchmarks aside, Fable really is a tier above both Opus and Codex. Still makes mistakes, still needs supervision, but much less, and with a good feedback loop is able to achieve a lot independently. If OpenAI had something tucked away, they'd have probably already released it, right? I'm worried as this big of a difference means that we're probably going to speed towards a big price increase, at least until some competitors catch up. But if Anthropic really just built a moat and they don't slow down, the market is going to be much different, and the price of frontier model(s) will follow. Even if you want to go for open source, having enough power to run 1T param models means a non trivial investment for many companies out there.


  👤 uberman Accepted Answer ✓

👤 yaodub
On capability, yeah. On pricing, they just told most developers they're not the target anymore.

👤 re-thc
No, I'd wager the opposite.

If Anthropic "won" they'd not 2x the price as well as potentially lock it out of monthly plans. Opus is already on the pricier side. Sonnet hasn't been updated in a long while. Haiku is even worse.

Right now, the only thing this gains is Anthropic has a better model but at 2-5x the cost. Is it worth it? That's not "winning". That's a tradeoff.