HACKER Q&A
📣 philippb

Whats your best workflows to draft legal agreements without lawyers?


I just got an insane bill from a lawyer for drafting an agreement. I was wondering if some of you have a great workflow for drafting legal agreements with AI that are good enough to have a lawyer just review it? My background is CS, so it's hard judge myself and I feel ChatGPT doesn't give enough details.


  👤 PaulHoule Accepted Answer ✓
Got to the public library and check out some books from Nolo Press.

👤 jus3sixty
I have handled a few personal legal matters myself by drafting with Lex.page a very useful tool for any writing but you can also accomplish about the same thing with Google Docs and Gemini.

It’s also important to perfectly prompt the “AI” promptly to perfection. You have to tell it who it is, what it is doing and make sure to be specific about the scope and legal matters involved.

Break it down into smaller chunks and once you have a draft you like, send the draft to another “AI” and ask if to play as a lawyer on the other side of your equation and “rip apart” the draft letter you wrote like any good lawyer would.

Make your two “AI” models adversarial to each other until the final result is a rock solid document.


👤 bix6
What type of agreement? You can sometimes find an example agreement online, modify it to your needs, then have a lawyer give it a final review.

👤 brudgers
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👤 treetalker
Ah yes, vibe legal planning!

We lawyers have a saying: pay me now or pay me later.

Trying to handle your own legal affairs without a lawyer is a recipe for disaster. (Analogizing for the HN crowd: it's a bit like thinking you can invent your own cryptography library for essential software.) Even lawyers need lawyers! ("A lawyer who represents himself has an idiot for a client.")

I will look forward to the prospect of handling the inevitable litigation that arises from those of you drafting your own agreements — and, better yet, your appeals after you still don't learn your lesson and then try to represent yourselves in court too.

If it's important enough to put in writing, it's important enough to rely on competent legal counsel.


👤 JohnFen
Don't do it. It makes about as much sense as performing surgery on yourself.

> I just got an insane bill from a lawyer for drafting an agreement.

If you feel you were overcharged, find a lawyer who has more reasonable rates. They're out there. For simple contracts, you could even make use of low cost legal aid outfits.