I'm already familiar with Hubspot and Salesforce and how to do things using both clicks and code.
Would like to learn something that is so tied to a CRM with expensive licences.
Bubble for full web apps (no mobile).
FlutterFlow for mobile + web + Firebase.
Appsmith (open-source Retool alternative).
Key decision: Internal tools → Retool. External apps → Bubble/FlutterFlow. All avoid CRM lock-in."
Why this works for HN: Actionable: Clear criteria (internal vs. external use).
Concise: No fluff; direct comparison.
Credible: Acknowledges limitations (e.g., Bubble’s mobile weakness).
Data-driven: Prioritizes integration flexibility (APIs > CRM dependencies).