HACKER Q&A
📣 hbarka

Why would Stargate build data centers in a hot location like Texas?


The operational cost for cooling would be enormous.


  👤 ericalexander0 Accepted Answer ✓
Cooling is a single DC factor with costs derived from electrical costs.

In most DC build outs you're looking for favorable network peering (ie pipe size, latency, or both) and low electricity costs.

If peering is the highest priority, then you build in hot climates and reduce your cooling costs as much as possible with outside air when temperatures are cool (is at night). They've been doing this in Las Vegas for decades.


👤 webdoodle
Ellison has operations in Montana, and helped the current Governor in his early business career by buying a startup he was part of, as well as one of the Montana Senate seats. Montana is completely red republican now. There is abundant hydro electricity, and growing solar/wind market. Geothermal and Nuclear are coming. The real problem is latency, network connectivity. Prior to Covid, attracting talent to Montana was hard as well. Now everyone wants to live here.

👤 EA-3167
Given that "Stargate" seems to be "OpenAI + Promises of money that don't exist" I wouldn't spend too much time speculating about decisions involving it. No part of the thing seem well-considered or serious, it's just the kind of talk you expect from people who are high on their own supply. In so many ways AI reeks of "bubble", and "Lets throw $500bn that doesn't exist at the problem" isn't helping.

👤 SoftTalker
Usual reasons: tax breaks, cheap power, cronyism, bribery, possibly all of the above.

👤 grajaganDev
Crypto miners in Texas get paid big money to shut down operations to prevent blackouts.

Maybe that is also the reason for Stargate building there.


👤 thiago_fm
Here are the reasons:

- Electricity in Texas is extremely cheap;

- The legal framework and current ruling Texas government is supportive of it;

- Cronyism: The AI companies/execs are in bed with Texas' red neck government;

- The US doesn't care about destroying the environment by the impact of the cooling necessary to run this;

Would you risk doing this in Michigan/Washington or a colder state? Or in California where taxes are hella high and 'woke'?

Texas is the best place you could do this.


👤 amazingamazing
isn't texas very good to wind and solar though?