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📣 kaycebasques

Books that gave you different perspective on religion


I'm reading The Prophetic Imagination by Walter Brueggemann now and it's giving me very different perspective on prophecy. Dune also changed my thoughts about religion a lot.


  👤 slowmovintarget Accepted Answer ✓
The Great Tang Dynasty Record of the Western Regions

This is intended to be an accurate account of a Buddhist monk's travels from China to India and back in the mid-seventh century. The Tang emperor was so impressed with the account, he asked the monk (Xuangzang) to create this historical record.

In addition to accurately describing the imports, exports, geography, and culture, it also goes on at length about dealing with "naga kings" (dragons inhabiting lakes), saints flying around with supernatural power, reincarnation, reputed temple miracles, collected stories of Buddhist enlightenment or attainment, and so on.

It's a similar experience to reading the Illiad or the Odyssey, in that it gives you a perspective on how people give credibility to the fantastic, when there is no evidence.


👤 hprotagonist
Brueggemann is amazing.

I would also add, in no particular order:

- wisdom of the desert (merton's translation of the sayings of the desert fathers)

- pilgrim at tinker creek; annie dillard

- goatwalking, jim corbett

- Impostors of God: Inquiries into our favorite Idols, william stringfellow

- the new testament, trans. by david bentley hart

- the sabbath, Abraham Joshua Heschel

- zen flesh, zen bones

- moral man, immoral society -- neibuhr

- principia discordia

- the poetry and sermons of john donne

- many other poets.


👤 fuzzfactor
"The Origin of Consciousness", Jaynes

"The Book of Mormon", Smith


👤 nprateem
Well basically any of the numerous books describing spiritual awakenings, since that's what religions are pointing to.

A good overview is The Kundalini Guide [1]. Some of the stuff defies explanation from a western perspective, but the strange stuff is mentioned throughout history and across traditions, so..?

There are also a few academic papers on kundalini now. Just search on nih.

Finally, after 20 years of trying different schools I'm now having the most success with the free lessons on AYP [2] if you want something practical.

That's the best way IMO since without understanding enlightenment as a real phenomenon, people can get quite confused. And what's the point in just reading a travel guide when you can visit for yourself?

[1] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kundalini-Guide-Companion-Journey-C...

[2] https://www.aypsite.org/10.html


👤 bookofjoe
"A Canticle For Leibowitz"

"The Sparrow"

"Lord of Light"

"The Immortal"

"Hyperion"

"The Last Question"

"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

"Stranger in a Strange Land"

"The City and the Stars"

"Childhood's End"

"Anathem"

"Eifelheim"

"A Case of Conscience"

"VALIS" trilogy

"The Book of Strange New Things"

"Behold The Man"

"The God Engines"

"Book of the New Sun"

"The Parable of the Sower"

"The Dosadi Experiment"

"Grass"

"Project Pope"

"Calculating God"

"Factoring Humanity"

"Jesus on Mars"

"Surface Detail


👤 tldrthelaw
The Demon-Haunted World - Carl Sagan

👤 sambhu
"God Talks With Arjuna: The Bhagavad Gita" transliteration by Swami Paramhamsa Yogananda had surpassed all the interpretations of Gita for me and implanted a different perspective on Body, Mind, and Intellect from the Bhagwat Perspective.

👤 smusamashah
Being a mildly religious person with lots of questions about it I have wondered how prophecy works from scientific or psychological view. Can you share some of the things you learned about prophecy from the book you mentioned?

The religion I fall into has lots of stories where starting from first person/prophet everyone was making the same prophecy about the last one. I sometimes wondered how it works from an external non-religious but still curious view because religion doesn't have answer to this line of questioning (except God) and demands belief.

Your question just made me realise that prophecy is a thing people have wrote about which is new for me.


👤 red_admiral
Just about everything by Karen Armstrong. The Case for God is a good one to start with.

👤 ghthor
The Alphabet that changed the world by Stan Tenan

https://www.amazon.com/Alphabet-That-Changed-World-Conscious...


👤 pavlov
Reading about the history and practices of Scientology was illuminating because it’s the only religion explicitly designed for the modern post-WWII era. It distills many essential ideas of religion to their operational core and attaches them to a front that presents a palatable vector of initiation (which, for modern Western societies, Hubbard correctly identified as psychotherapy, so he made his church look like a mental health program).

Seeing the process of starting a religion laid so bare is helpful in understanding successful operators of the past like Paul the Apostle, Muhammad, Smith, etc.


👤 rguzman
3:16 Bible Texts Illuminated by Donald Knuth

👤 kcartlidge
Quite a few along the way, but in an attempt to minimise:

- "Letters from the Desert" by Carlo Carretto

- "Being the Body" by Charles Colson

- "Fire in Our Hearts" by Mike Farrant

- "Total Freedom" by Jiddu Krishnamurti

- "Muhammad - a Prophet for Our Time" by Karen Armstrong


👤 RGamma
Common sense - Your brain, considering the modern ape, also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwAQqWUkpI&pp=ygUhaHVtYW4gY...

👤 matt_s
The "Dictionary of gods and goddesses, devils and demons" gives good descriptions and has cross references on categories, etc.

Its a thick book which kinda illuminated for me how many of these types of things humans have come up with and how over time one set of them influences the next.


👤 sfmz
It's not a book, but this gang-member's near-death experience made quite an impression on me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vLs_wg9q2I

👤 crabmusket
The Long Loneliness by Dorothy Day. About her life and involvement with the Catholic Worker movement.

The Dazzle Of Day by Molly Gloss. A downbeat beautiful meditation on a spaceship crewed by Quakers.



👤 082349872349872
When They Severed Earth From Sky (2004); see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38761574

👤 debtless4080
Destiny disrupted: A History of the world through Islamic eyes, Tamim Ansary

Early Theological Writings, Hegel. Specifically 'The spirit of Christianity and it's Fate'.


👤 leethomas
Thomas Merton's _New Seeds of Contemplation_

👤 gungho2rdo2
The Clear Quran Translation by Dr. Khattab

👤 kirkarg
An specific chapter on the "Wondering mind" from Isaac Asimov. Great book

👤 devn0ll
Reading the Bible made me more Atheist then anything else to be honest.

👤 joshuawright11
Mere Christianity - C.S. Lewis

👤 somberi
I suggest two books by Hesse - Siddhartha / Narcissus and Goldmund.

👤 recursivedoubts
The Brothers Karamazov

👤 joemazerino
More Than A Carpenter

👤 thinkingemote
Tom Holland: Dominion

👤 amadeuspagel
The House of Government by Yuri Slezkine.

👤 vadertemp
Struggling to Surrender: Dr. Jeffrey Lang

👤 yablak
"The Martyr" by Poul Anderson

👤 rognjen
History of God by Karen Armstrong

👤 swman
Bhagavad Gita

👤 aSithLord
Uncanny X-Men 141-142

👤 dpig_
Be Here Now, Ram Dass

👤 roxil
The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins

👤 hagbard_c
Not a book really but just listening to a lot of people talking about the subject of 'religion' - between quotes because of the wide application of the term - and coming to the realisation that my previous stance on it did not hold in light of recent (as in the last century or so) developments. A bit of background: I was born in a non-practising Catholic family and always went to Catholic schools where I stood out by not going to communion and not becoming an altar boy etc. I went to a Jesuit-run high school where my French teacher would lead the service at the start and end of the year, etc. It was a good school and I had a good time and good teachers but they did not inspire me to pick up religion. I saw religion as something which more or less belonged to history where it played an important role but which was slowly but surely being overtaken by the products of the Enlightenment: the scientific method, the age of reason, objectivity. Where I saw religion rear up I saw trouble: Iran under Khomeini turning into a theocracy, all sorts of scandals in Catholic churches (of which I never noticed anything by the way), periodic outbreaks of long-banished diseases among strictly religious communities because they refused vaccination and thought prayer to be as effective as modern medicine, etc. It would surely be better for us here in the Western world to rid ourselves of the final remains of religious dogma for then we would be free...

...or would we?

We did and still do rid ourselves of old religious bonds but we do not seem to have become more free for that, the opposite seems to be true. The 'god-shaped hole' which is left after leaving those 'old religions' did not get filled with objectivity and reason. It seems to have become a fertile bed for even more dogmatic ideologies which have many of the downsides of religion but offer none of the upsides. Many of these 'ersatz-religions' are distinctly anti-western, some go even further by being anti-human. There is no salvation to be found among them, man was born in sin and repentance will not save him. There is no heaven awaiting those who try to follow the 'correct' path, only a different version of hell.

What all this has taught me is that religion did not appear out of a vacuum but out of necessity. To keep society as sane as possible there is a need for a higher authority - whether real or imagined - which (or who) stands above all us mortals, even above the most mighty of kings and the most powerful of warlords. It is to that higher authority and his set of commandments that even those highest rulers need to be subservient to so as to keep them from usurping the power to do as they please without recourse. This can only work if enough people consider the will of the higher authority to overrule that of their 'earthly' rulers so the message needs to be spread and someone needs to get that ball rolling - a prophet, so to say.

Maybe a time will come when we as a species can live together without the need for a higher being to keep us from violating the commandments but that time has not yet arrived so: choose your god(s) but choose them wisely. You do not need to believe in the actual existence of the deity/deities in question but you - being rational - should be able to reason yourself into a position where acting as if he/they exist(s) is the better choice. You do not have to follow mortal leaders who claim they know what your god wants but you can listen to what the wiser among them have to say and find your own way towards a fulfilling life.