HACKER Q&A
📣 h99

How to effectively get feedback from users?


Getting feedback from customers is crucial but it seems really difficult to get people to answer a survey or get on a call.

I mainly use email to ask for feedback and the response rates are terrible, 2-3%.

Are there any effective ways of getting feedback from customers? Tools or templates?


  👤 staysaasy Accepted Answer ✓
Some ideas that have worked well for me in b2b/SaaS:

* If you're pre-product/market fit, just reach out to users via email, in-product messaging etc. You can incentivize them with Amazon gift cards as well. At this stage nobody actually needs your product so you'll have to do it by hook or by crook.

* If you're post-product/market fit then people actually _need_ your business. Once you make it clear that you're going to action on their feedback they're highly incentivized to help you out – so use the same strategies as above but make it clear what you'll use the feedback for.

* Set up automated surveys, especially ones that are unobtrusive in order to not create a shitty user experience – this allows you to baseline your product's effectiveness which is the first step towards continuous iteration. Eg last quarter we were at 3.3/5 satisfaction, let's get to 4.0/5 this quarter. These surveys are also a great way to find customers to interview.

* FullStory and Hotjar both allow you to view user sessions, highly recommend them as well.

The most important point: if you're an enterprise business, I highly recommend identifying the "best" customers that you have, building relationships with them, and favoring their guidance over others'. Once you hit scale all of your customers will want to give you feedback, but only some of them will have the wisdom/intelligence/creativity/whatever to have a great sense for what _you_ should build for _your_ business to succeed. When you find these customers, get them onto a customer advisory board / meet with them a lot as they will help you in the art of pulling a great product out of your market.


👤 arjunvpaul
Can share what we do at our startup. (8 people, 100 - 200 customers). We create a WhatsApp group for every customer and stay with them right from onboarding onwards.

Beauty of it is they sneeze, we know. Everyone in the team kinda knows what's important what's not. we can confidently say things like "nobody cares about that fancy feature". It super valuable for a startup to get immedeate feedback. Especially valuable has been knowing - the first things the notice when they start using: where is sort? how do i add team members? do i have to prepay? - feature requests: it's painful to keep closing windows, need the ability to adjust windows, I also want to do this other thing you guys havent thought of. - Bugs: why am i seeing double messages.

Disadvantages are that some customers expect immedeate answers, unrealistic expectations. and its cringey to lay down the rules and set expectations every time. no matter how many times you do it.

Our take is its 80% good and 20% bad. As we grow the company, the idea is to keep doing this for a "representative sample of customers" . Customer feedback is gold. If you can setup some kind of process like this, its great.


👤 disillusioned
There's a pretty great book on this called The Mom Test by Rob Fitzpatrick:

https://amzn.to/383bo92

It talks at length about the challenges, especially, of getting _honest_ feedback from prospective users. And it has a lot of ideas to that effect.


👤 kareemm
It sounds like you're an early stage company - most established companies have the problem of too much feedback.

At the early stage my experience has been:

1. You should install SmartLook, FullStory, or similar to watch users. Qualitative feedback beats quantitative b/c your raw numbers are too low to be useful.

2. Identify key points in the customer journey when you want to collect feedback. For B2B SaaS I ask for feedback via email at these stages:

- When a customer signs up for a trial

- When a customer converts to a paying sub

- When a customer doesn't convert

- After 1-2 months of paying

- When a customer churns

First I'll make sure that I get system-generated emails when these events happen so I can send them manually.

I'll eventually automate sending these emails once volume gets too high. I'll automate them by sending from our app or from a tool like UserList or Intercom.

And when I get feedback I centralize in the tool I'm building (www.savio.io) and use it to prioritize what to build next.


👤 mxstbr
We built a widget exactly for this! https://feedback.fish It integrates in your website so that users can give feedback immediately once they feel a need (whether that's a bug report or a feature request).

We have found that our customers collect up to 35x more feedback than before once they add the widget to their websites! It does depend on where you place the "Give feedback" button though — the more visible it is, the more feedback you'll collect.


👤 harrybr
You are asking about user research. There is an entire industry of user researchers out there, and lots of great books and articles. It fascinates me that HN has such a blind spot for this topic.

The responses on here are reasonable but a bit short sighted. What works in one context will not work in another.


👤 Jugurtha
There's what people say, and what they do. One way to get feedback is to install analytics on your product to see what users are doing, or what they are not doing. There are many solutions, we currently use PostHog[0][1].

If you don't have any, log user actions when they succeed or fail to do something. Even a simple log can tell you many things.

It also tells you if they're failing to discover or use a certain feature, or if they're using something in an unintended way.

You can set up Slack channels for your product to help users troubleshoot issues. We have workspaces where users can get help. Whenever the 20th user complains about something, what to do next becomes clear. We tend to focus on issues with high frequency and high severity as opposed to say stylesheets, but it's because the field is struggling not for lack of good CSS. But it may be different for you and you may have a product where the value of the product is the better interface. Adjust accordingly.

- [0]: https://posthog.com/

- [1]: https://github.com/PostHog/posthog


👤 toast76
(Shameless plug) https://smidge.app

We had this problem with our product (BugHerd) and built a solution for it. Our success rate was ~1% and we thought we could do better.

We created a JS embed that you install in your web app. It allows you to segment your users and place a call with them from within your app (using webrtc). Unlike email/calendly/zoom square dance, Smidge has a 17-20% success rate to call. It's been huge for us and we're now opening to beta. Would love feedback

(Screensharing, "request a call" and page/user calling coming soon!)


👤 oleks637
I approach this question slightly differently, and I guess this only works while your product is small enough. I develop and sell a desktop app and I try to build as much relationship with my users as possible, and then ask them for feedback.

- I have installed a chat popup on my landing page and I always try to answer any question within 1 hour, and then follow up with those users afterward.

- I have a feedback portal (similar to canny). Whenever anyone leaves any kind of feedback, I write them a thank you email and try to elaborate more on the feedback they left, no matter if this is negative, positive feedback or feature request. For example, if they ask for a feature, I tell them when I plan to develop it.

- Whenever user purchases a license for my app, I also write them a thank you email, and ask for a small feedback. I try to do a short investigation on what user is doing and include some personal touch in it. Usually, 50% of such emails get an answer.

- If I see some bug report coming from a known user I immediately send them an email explaining why that bug has happened, how and when I'm gonna fix it.

I also keep a page in my notes called 'Followups' where I put the user's name and the reason why I should follow up with them. For example next week I'm preparing a new release of the app that has changes which I know are used heavily by a couple of users and I will reach out to them this week, give them an alpha build and ask for their feedback. Whenever I get an idea of how I can bring someone's attention to the product, I add their name to this list.


👤 oakst
I think it depends a bit on what type of feedback you're after. For quantitative feedback tools like hotjar.com's surveys can be quite effective (https://www.hotjar.com/tour/#polls).

For qualitative data such as user interviews/calls the solution for most teams is either to spend a lot of time on find users to talk to and set up calls or to pay companies like usertesting.com for access to their panels.

These tools don't allow you to get quick (and for most teams affordable) access to your own users for user interviews though, which is something that was enough of a pain point within my own team that we've built a tool exactly for that (https://tryribbon.com).

The Mom Test is also a great read on how to get useful user feedback in general (https://amzn.to/383bo92).


👤 hermitcrab
I have found the most effective way is to email users with an open question (not a survey form) about 7 days after purchase.

"We are very interested in how you are getting on with . Please email us if you have any suggestions about how we can improve ."

But that only works if you are getting sales.

Also the more responsive you are to customers, the more likely they are to report bugs or make suggestions.

I wrote about my experiences getting feedback here: https://successfulsoftware.net/2008/04/28/getting-customer-f... (old article, but still relevant)


👤 philippz
This is why we've built STOMT. https://www.stomt.com - It's addressed towards Gaming atm, but we've companies from all industries using us.

Our idea is to keep the perceived effort to give feedback as small as possible and that works quite well. Also, it can embedded and triggered in any software to collect feedback right in place.

Feedback is collected publicly by default. Here is our own page: https://www.stomt.com/stomt but of course you can also turn your page private.


👤 sillysaurusx
Make a discord and advertise it prominently. Hang out in there. Talk to people who join. Be actually interested in their use cases, and not in your own company.

A discord server is useful for far more than most people understand. You can show daily progress; show new features; highlight community contributions; have a centralized bug report channel; and the other users will start solving other users' problems when it attains critical mass.

The nit is "critical mass". But if you make something that people find remotely interesting, people will join. Broadcast what you're doing on twitter, and eventually you'll get noticed.

Surveys and cold calls are like trying to make fire by banging stones together. Tools from a different era. Sure, they work, but I've found the above process to be far more effective.

It helps to make your discord a general topic, by the way, rather than a specific product. Our ML discord recently passed 1,000 users. https://discord.com/invite/x52Xz3y

Community building is tough work, and I've had several failed attempts. You shouldn't expect yours to take off immediately. You should do it because you like it, and eventually something will work.

But it depends entirely on the business. Most businesses don't need a community. But I can't think of a single business with a community that would have been in such a strong position without it.


👤 hartator
We use canny.io as SerpApi.com: https://forum.serpapi.com

It's pretty effective at getting very early bug reports, gathering interest on potential features, and their initial use was for feedback gathering. Random users won't give you feedback however until they came across a bug or a need though in my experience!


👤 tobiaslins
I've 3 sources of feedback that are working great for splitbee.io:

* Hitting up active customers on Twitter, just writing a short message: "Hi xyz, just saw that you are using Splitbee quite actively. Do you have any feedback for me, that would help a lot"

For this method I got answers from 9/10 people with amazing feedback. Very detailed and long messages. Be sure to target "power" users.

* I sent automatic emails if someone embeds splitbee successfully to their page & a mail if they don't do it within 24 hours. People often engage with them and explaining why they did not embed it yet. Also pretty helpful

* We added the feedback.fish widget to all of our https://splitbee.io/docs/embed-the-script and in our app. We get about 8-10 submissions a month which is quite a lot for our size.


👤 tbran
High level:

Go where your customers already are and become a part of their community. Be a long-term person in a long term business. If they don't have a place, make it.

If you have that, you're on your way to Product-Channel Fit [1].

Low level:

I've also sent pointless emails and made useless phone calls and most people default to doing nothing when you contact them.

So:

If you think phone/email are where your people are, you need to follow up a lot. Steli Efti has lots of great content on this type of thing [2]. This is an unpopular view on HN because most people see this as spam, but this is what CRMs are built for.

[1]: https://brianbalfour.com/essays/product-channel-fit-for-grow...

[2]: https://blog.close.com/follow-up/


👤 CharlesIvia
When starting out, asking for feedback on features or ideas might not be very effective. This is because your early adopters might be your close friends or people who do not want to hurt your feelings.

Instead, ask what is wrong with a product and you will receive genuine feedback. You can ask this question though email.


👤 mindhash
Connecting with users goes a long way. The way to do that may not be just asking for feedback but engaging them in thoughts around your product or thing you need feedback one.

Write an email to talk share your research, how market is doing a certain thing, what's coming up ahead for you and them in terms of trend, etc. Engage in active discussions around the business that your customers operate in. Post that seek opinions.

John does a wonderful job of explaining importance of this here: https://www.indiehackers.com/post/the-power-and-importance-o...

Start a thread and see where it goes. Build an active conversation around things before seeking feedback. Good luck


👤 k1w1
Getting actionable user feedback is something we struggled with at Aha! too. We experimented with different techniques but what we kept coming back to is that if you ask people directly, and engage them in a conversation, you get the most useful feedback.

Just knowing that someone is satisfied, or unsatisfied, with your product is not actionable. Often the reasons why a customer might be unsatisfied are subtle and would be impossible to discern with a questionnaire or survey. We think the answer is "empathy sessions" - kind of like focus groups meets modern online communication.

https://www.aha.io/blog/introducing-empathy-sessions


👤 daniel_levine
I'd check out something like https://userleap.com/ so that you can integrate bite-sized surveys right into your product. Great for onboarding, trial conversion, feature feedback, etc

👤 siquick
If you're looking to understand how users are interacting with your website then screen recording tools like Hotjar combined with setting up task completion funnels in analytics platforms like Mixpanel can give you a lot.

👤 gauthamzz
It is often better to get feedback while the user is using the product that is what we recommend at http://featuremonkey.com/

When you send an email and ask user to give feedback they don't really have an incentive to give feedback, maybe giving Amazon gift cards etc.. can increase the likely hood of reply.

The placement of give feedback link can be really important.

Maybe keep in near places where you are more likely to have issues or you want feedback from.


👤 Maxmanseau
At Stories, feedback is our raw material to build a great product. Our PMs were struggling to set up a feedback generation process so they built a widget to help our users record voice + screen feedback.

We recently spin it off as a side project: http://hellozest.io/. It's free to install and works like a charm.

Hope it can help you get more contextual feedback and build better product


👤 devteambravo
Look into the Nielsen-Norman group (nngroup). Tons of expertise to perform proper user interviews. Keep building on what you learn as opposed to looking for THE way.

👤 MoYasse
If you're introducing a new technology or service, what worked with us is 1o1 meetings with local customers, just giving them an intent that the 15 minutes meeting is going to be worth their time.

Secondly, (maybe it's mentioned I've read all comments) you need a community and keep it active and read the on going discussion on how people think of your product


👤 logikblok
A further suggestion to the ones here, would making a public slack for your users to join help? Slightly different to the others in that this now remains open for everyone to join and stay for as long as they need. Pros: Builds a community perhaps, direct and fast feedback. Cons: Might become a support channel, perhaps difficult to manage and maintain.

👤 iamsb
If your product is in a domain where there are few players present, it will interesting to reach out the people who are sharing negative feedback about existing company. If they are sharing this feedback frequently, then they are highly engaged users who may be open to having a chat about what a product should do and try out yours.

👤 DeonPenny
You have to call them. The mom test has a great framework. But the best way it to ask for advice. Setup and low barrier impropt call right away not days away. Also prep questions you need answered before hand.

Don't make the conversation too formal. Don't use surveys. Don't try to automate this process. It much less effective.


👤 jqbx_jason
On site surveys have been effective for us[1]. Ultimately this is a super general question and it depends on: 1. What data you want to collect 2. Where you place your poll (if it's on site) 3. What questions you ask.

[1] https://www.zigpoll.com


👤 aytekin
Offering to give users a $50 Amazon gift certificate in exchange for a 45 minute call works pretty well for us.

Since we know that 3 out of 10 users who receive this offer will accept it we segment users by industry / feature usage etc. and send offers to talk to them to listen their stories and feedback.


👤 cionescu
I use this strategy borrowed from Stephen Fry (Podia's founder)

https://medium.com/better-programming/podias-founder-on-the-...


👤 jamil7
My iOS app has an email button in it and I do get feature requests and bug reports from time to time, I also have a subreddit for the small community, when I was more engaged in marketing I was posting more there and getting some responses but I've lost a little motivation lately.

👤 gnicholas
For anyone wondering about this who has a Chrome extension, I'd highly recommend creating an uninstall survey. We have an incredible response rate (25%). We just link the user to a Google form with a couple questions, and a surprising number of folks are willing to fill it out.

👤 veesea
Great question, as an early stage group(not a startup yet), we have also been faced with questions. What recommendations would you have for pre-product converstaions with potential target customer segments?

👤 b20000
What users tell you is irrelevant. They will tell you X and then do Y instead. You have to focus on what they do, so all you need to do is find a way to observe them.

👤 dt3ft
Here's an idea: pay your users to answer a survey. And don't just pay a few cents, pay them at least USD 20 or so. I bet your response rate will skyrocket.

👤 MarxOk
I have had a lot of success cold emailing them after signup with something that's clearly not automated. Most people are surprisingly responsive.

👤 thehappypm
2-3% isn’t terrible, but you’ll get selection bias.

You can pay people to use your product and then have them give your feedback. That’s the crux of UserTesting.com.


👤 davidmoffatt
Tech support. If they have a good ticket system and they use it you can gleen all sorts of info.

👤 mooreds
This is a great topic and one that is near and dear to my heart. I love building software, but even more I like building valuable software that solves problems.

I'll share what's worked for me in the past and present, because I think context is important. What works for a b2b SaaS business at the early stage doesn't work for a later stage, larger services company. And vice versa.

Company A (a real estate brokerage with ~100 brokers and a customer service team):

I managed the tech team and worked on the product roadmap with CEO and COO. We set it quarterly.

* emails sent by the customer service team at crucial points (just after referring, after close, etc), including asking for reviews

* a chatbot on the website with the customer service team responding

* adhoc conversations the CEO had with customers and realtors.

Company B (startup, I was tech co-founder, B2B, SaaS):

Clean slate, co-founder had a research background and loved surveys.

* captive facebook group. This was great because this was a place to get feedback on the app and other issues facing our customers, but was also a great "offer", kinda like a whitepaper but more valuable. We could reach out to potential customers and offer them membership in the premier community of their peers for free. bonus!

* customer advisory board. I met with a few select customers once a month for an hour each time. Would get feedback on general usage, trends in their business, and had time to show them new features and discuss the roadmap.

* NPS survey: I installed delighted and we tracked that number over time.

* zendesk/intercom for tickets and chat.

Company C (funded startup, B2D/B2B, I joined, they pivoted):

Unique situation for me because when I joined they were still working on the business model, hence the pivot. Bigger team, I wasn't privy to the big picture.

* In app analytics. They had built out a way to see what customers were doing inside the app, so you could run queries and ask "is anyone using feature X", for example. I wasn't a common user of this, but it was interesting to run periodically.

* I filled a role for a little while doing customer research to help us as we pivoted. This consisted of trolling linkedin for connections with a certain profile, then scheduling calls to discuss their problems and how they were solving them. If appropriate, showing them a little demo. Recorded it all and wrote it up to share with the team.

* At this same company the CEO (post pivot) was a huge fan of having sales folks provide feedback from customers. I wasn't around to see how this turned out, but it made sense from an intellectual standpoint.

Company D (bootstrapped startup, B2D/B2B):

My current employer is unique in my experience because they have a product, it's multifaceted and can be used in many different ways (horizontal, not vertical), it's not entirely a SaaS offering, there's an intense focus on the security and privacy of our users, and they have both a community using the product for free and a customer base, paying for the product.

Here's where we get feedback from right now:

* web based forum. We use nodebb. Moved over from slack. We lost the community hangout feel when we did so, but gained: a lesser expectation of an immediate reply, permanence of questions and responses, SEO, searchability by users. I'll also use it as a lightweight doc repository where I can capture answers for questions asked elsewhere. If a question gets asked often enough in the forum, I'll promote it to the official docs. This feedback is more of the "this isn't working" type.

* zendesk and slack for paying customers. Again, "this isn't working"

* github issues. We provide templates for bug reports and feature requests. The community then votes on the feature requests and when we have time for new work, we sort by the number of upvotes and include that in our roadmap planning. Features are more "I wish the app did this" type of feedback.

* sales call feedback. This is adhoc, but valuable. I'd say the CEO aggregates this in his head and again the team uses it in our roadmap planning. This is more of the "we'd buy if it did X" type.

* email newsletters/drips: we have a couple of automated email drips after certain events (user signs up for newsletter, etc). Unsure what kind of feedback we get, but we always ask.

* ask for reviews on a site like capterra. We do this because it's a light ask for folks, helps get us feedback, and also helps with marketing.

* outreach and profiles: I have started to actively reach out to community members and customers and do interviews. These feed into marketing material (blog, case studies) but also inform the team about how folks use the software. This is time consuming but you can learn a lot about how people use this multifaceted tool in surprising ways.

* google analytics: goals have been set up for various actions and we track completions.

Taking a step back, I think the hard part is not collecting feedback (that's just putting in the work and there are tons of tools out there to help) but rather reifying it into an actionable roadmap and incorporate into company decisions. This is part of the role of a product manager, after all, and quite a valuable one.


👤 hizxy
Incentives. Pay for their time. That’s it.

👤 petewailes
There's entire books on this. Ping me an email at pete@hirund.in and we'll chat.

👤 baybal2
Start a public BugZilla!

👤 harrylucas
It's going to sound super simple, but initially you really just want to try and have as many conversations as possible with your users.

Firstly though, you need to have an idea (doesn't have to be perfect or 100% right) of who your target segment is. These are the people whose problem you are solving - and therefore initially are going to hold more weight with their feedback.

Once you have identified these users - use a combination of current users and potential users to get feedback from.

Some ideas:

* Email (like you've been trying) - Try and be candid and frank. Put yourself in their shoes - why should they respond? If it's a generic email their probably going to be of the mindset of either 'Someone else will do it' or 'I can't be bothered'. If you make it unique and more personal you're going to have a higher reply rate - but obviously a higher time commitment. I'd also suggest pushing for feedback calls rather then just messages. A call with a target user is worth its weight in gold.

As other users have suggested - offering a giftcard in exchange for a feedback call is also another valuable route if you can afford it.

* LinkedIn: Depending on your business (B2B or B2C) you can follow up with these users and potential new users on LinkedIn. Again this comes back to being somewhat more personal. Explain who you are etc.

* In app messaging: If they are constantly using your app - ask them while they are there in the midst of it. Don't be spammy though (this is approach we take mainly with delighted).

Lastly, once you have gotten your feedback - don't just take it at facevalue. Try and really understand what problem they are trying to solve as the solution might be completely different then the one they were thinking of.

E.g. if you were building an analytics app and someone gave feedback that they want to be able to export the data. If you take that at facevalue you will most likely build a tool that exports their data. However if you dig deeper and try and understand why they want to export the data, you might be able to solve a bigger issue for them AND for more users. E.g. if they come back and say they want to do XYZ with the data beacuse that means they can then gain ABC insight from the data - you might be able to add the ABC insight into the dashboard instead, skipping the need for export and customer work.

If you want more of a hand feel free to reach out! I'd be happy to help you out!

[1]: This is actually a problem we are trying to solve with Delighted so I feel your pain - https://getdelighted.co