HACKER Q&A
📣 timmytokyo

Will Facebook be a badge of shame on a resume?


As more people become aware of Facebook's deleterious effects on society, will having Facebook on your resume be seen as a liability? Is it already a liability? It's certainly happened to ethically challenged companies before. Former employees of Enron, for example, found it difficult to get work after Enron imploded. Similar reputational damage greeted employees of Arthur Andersen.

I'd love to hear from anyone involved in the hiring process at their organization.


  👤 aplummer Accepted Answer ✓
It's amazing the level of scrutiny this social media company gets.

Sure, social media has created new issues. Let's say you don't buy into "the doing something for the first time in history and not getting it right all the time" narrative and you take a "this is all deliberate" bent.

1. Oil and coal companies literally kill thousands of people every year and destroy the planet we need to live. Indisputable evidence of coverups etc.

2. News Corp deliberately spreads misinformation for Murdoch (a large part of Facebook's claimed evil is that they spread news corp)

3. Name a war crime without a major government feeding arms to both sides. In how many of these cases is it your government?

Seems like people don't like getting fed a real reflection of the people, corporations and society around them, more than the crimes against humanity (often literally) themselves.


👤 kylecazar
Not in the eyes of a reasonable employer (with the exception of maybe a handful of titles).

Facebook's net effect on society is very complex and any employer who would throw out your CV for having worked in a competitive, controversial and (probably) challenging work environment isn't worth caring about anyway. Let it come up and speak honestly.


👤 BurningFrog
Facebook is hated among a loud minority.

Most people don't much care, and even among those, unless you're a decisionmaker with questionable record, I wouldn't worry.

I've also never before heard that rank and file Enron or AA employees suffered such reputational damage.


👤 ThrowawayR2
As the kids say: LOL. While the pundits here and elsewhere on social media may rant about Facebook being evil, Google being evil, Amazon being evil, etc., they have little to do with the real world. I mean, IBM was the hated monopolist of the '70s-'90s and Microsoft was one of the most loathed software companies in the technology industry in the '00s and there isn't any significant prejudice against their former employees.

👤 notRobot
Here's what I would do if someone who previously worked at FB applied to my company.

It depends on what you did at FB. If you were simply a programmer or techie, working on DBs or frontend development, or whatever, it's completely okay. It's completely okay if you were in a management position overlooking technical stuff like this too.

If you were a techie who worked on features that are questionable (eg, tracking users accross sites, shadow profiles, collecting data without consent, etc), I will possibly still hire you, but I will ask you how you felt working on those features.

Simply because I would not feel comfortable with someone working in my company who had no doubts and was completely willing to work on stuff like that. Personal preference. Ethics and morals are important to me.

If you were in a management position, and were in charge of unethical features and privacy-invading practices such as the ones mentioned above, I would not hire you.


👤 notacoward
Not overall. Sure, some employers might make the assumption that every single employee at Facebook bears responsibility for every single thing Facebook did, none were neutral let alone tried to improve things while there, etc. Most will reject that idea, or the idea that personal morality should be injected into the hiring process. Even among those who subscribe to it, that is likely to be outweighed by the fact that Facebook engineers have experience dealing with a scale and complexity few other employers can match. Facebook engineering has a pretty good reputation (whether one believes it's deserved or not) independent of Facebook as a commercial/political entity. Sorry, but Facebook experience will continue to be an asset on a resume.

Disclaimer: ex-Facebook myself, but I'm out of the game now so I don't really have a stake any more.


👤 thoughtstheseus
Yes, or at least I hope people will believe that. It’s dangerous to have people believe they can work for an organization and not be responsible, to some degree,for its actions.

👤 sys_64738
I think one of the issues ex-FBers may have is the inflated expectations of total compensation. FB is a place where you get excessive comp relative to the rest of the industry. A hiring manager needs to consider that when reviewing resumes.

👤 social_quotient
I get the argument here but. If we look at stock price as a proxy for forward and future expectations relative to its monetary impact to society. Then I’d say it’s way too soon to be talking about Enron and Facebook in the same sentence.

User growth continues to be strong. Ad business is unchanged even with the boycott. Investor and institutional dollars still flowing in (you can’t just blame Robinhood investors here)

Where is this acting like Enron materially?


👤 jaimex2
No, unless you're a senior figure who's name will be published there is no reason why any employer would care. If you have the skills why would they?

👤 orange_joe
No. At my org, I look at technical resumes and I'm directed to pass people I believe could pass a technical interview (among a few other factors). Greater scrutiny will be applied later in the process. I know that people who have worked at facebook can pass a technical interview so it's easy to pass them onto the next round.

👤 elesbao
No, next.

👤 taylorhughes
No, especially if you work on one of the many integrity teams internally trying to make it better.

👤 li4ick
Just like Wernher von Braun wasn't allowed to work on anything after he left Germany.

👤 bdcravens
No, in the same sense that working for the military tends not to.

👤 bdcravens
As more people become aware of Facebook's deleterious effects on society, will having Facebook's ReactJS in your application be seen as a liability?

👤 ccmonnett
I have disdain for Facebook as a company _but_ I am hiring a data scientist now (NLP focus, if you're interested/know someone) and would gladly hire someone from FB.

I've already interviewed someone who worked at FB and it was definitely a subject I would touch on in the process - their thoughts on working there, why they joined and left/were leaving, etc.

Their product is destructive but their engineering is great. If I were hiring an ethicist, on the other hand...


👤 bb88
No.

Mostly because people are in so much demand, and the average IC really does not have the ability to change the organization.


👤 sneak
Depends on the year. Working at Facebook post-2010 is a strong negative signal for me.

👤 friedman23
If anything Facebook is a positive given most of their engineers are highly qualified.

edit: to the people downvoting me, I can tell you for certain that having facebook on your resume as a software engineer gets you interviews


👤 seba_dos1
Everyone has made some mistakes in the past.