HACKER Q&A
📣 _megha_agarwal

How do you pay your utility bills?


Interested in learning how/where individuals or businesses pay their essential monthly bills such as, Utilities, Rent, and Insurance?

1. How? Credit Card, Debit Card, Cash or Check. 2. Where? Biller Website, Through your Bank Account or others? 3. What are your current pain points, and what improvements would you like to see? 4. Auto payments. Yay or Nay?

Especially interested in points 3 & 4.


  👤 aveedibya Accepted Answer ✓
It varies by billers, and how much fee they charge on using cards. I prefer autopay for billers on their website where I can add credit card and forget it (for ex. telecom and internet bills). For others, such as electric or rent bills, I prefer to pay using ACH but cannot schedule auto pay as I want to make sure I have enough balance in my bank account before making a payment. Plus, ACH has risks of NSF from both sides, which I don't like. I have tried using my bank account to directly pay bills, but not super convenient.

👤 timeinput
My preference is always auto pay, in preference order credit card, debit card, ACH. I only allow ACH access for my mortgage. I tend to use the merchants site to set it up, and allow them to draw. It would be nice if there was some kind of reach back where I could de-authorize these things with out interacting with each merchant.

👤 chris-orgmenta
Hi Megha,

I manage Accounts Payable for clients.

>1. How? Credit Card, Debit Card, Cash or Check.

EFT/Direct Debit > CC/DC manual/ACH/Wire Transfer > Check (US only)/Paypal/other expensive payment platforms.

2. Where? Biller Website, Through your Bank Account or others?

Automatic payments > Manual batches through accounting package > Manual payment via phone/biller portal

3. What are your current pain points, and what improvements would you like to see?

- Current clients: Biggest pain point is actually financial onboarding suppliers, e.g. verifying bank details / setting up direct debit etc.

- Current clients: Credit requests / getting suppliers to make changes to their invoices can be laborious.

- New Clients: Distributors such as Ingram Micro will place companies on stop credit as soon as one bill is overdue - Which seems to catch a lot of orgs off guard if they don't have a stable AP process in place.

- New Clients: Three way match is rarely done.

- New Clients: Often miss on-billing supplier costs. E.g. purchasing M365 licenses, provisioning them, paying them through AP, then forgetting to add them to a client agreement for invoicing.

4. Auto payments. Yay or Nay?

Absolutely Yay, but they should still undergo a three (actually five) way match, and be 'approved' by the decision maker before being debited.

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I reviewed https://www.neonforlife.com/ & https://medium.com/neonfinancial/neon-whats-all-the-fuss-abo... and I'm wondering:

- You are pivoting from b2c to both b2c & b2b? Seems sensible, I can't imagine b2c being very lucrative.

- For B2B, is it your 0% credit line that makes it worth using your dashboard instead of Xero/QBO/etc.? Or are there other benefits?

- How are you monetising this? You are shouldering such massive risk here, surely you will get masses of late payments & defaults ...

I really like that your B2C offering can prevent 'charging poor people for being poor'. Good on you