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📣 pinkrobotics

Ambitious robotics entrepreneur with failing Kickstarter. Seeking advice


Howdy HN,

My name is Tyler, I'm a robotics entrepreneur and I just started a Kickstarter that is going to fail (see www.PinkRobotics.ca). I won't blame it, anyone else or even myself for it failing. Could I do a lot better? Obviously. Will it make the difference? Probably not. Nevertheless, I still think the world needs my campaign to succeed; but there is also little I can do to make that happen.

So, I seek the often sound and level headed advice of HK et al.:

My story: I have a BSc in CS, where I focused on AI stuff, and an MSc where I published about applying AI stuff to HPC stuff. I went to a space university program and learned about space stuff. Then, I did seven years of a PhD where I tried to be ambitious but it didn't work out, so I quietly left without succeeding anymore. Then I did a year long solo motorcycle trip around Mexico, starting and ending in Canada. After, I started a robotics company to address climate change with technological solutions. I applied to YC and UBC startup programs to use large drones and other robots to help fight the locally pressing issue of wildfires. Neither organization was interested, for several understandable reasons including: I am alone, no likelihood of a short term high yield return and the societal benefit of my project wasn't considered. So, I "gave up" and applied to a dozen jobs in my area. Only to not receive any replies at all, from anyone, not even rejections. Likely a blessing though, as I have no faith in my ability to pass a technical interview at this point in my "career". So I worked for a friend doing tradeswork to the pay the bills, until covid hit and I went on gov't support. I again focused on my robotics stuff, which has led me to my Kickstarter which will likely fail in just under 6 weeks.

I see three options for myself going forward: keep up the robotics hussle until death or success, study and get a job in my area for money and respect, or get a job where I can be happy.

Advice?


  👤 tlb Accepted Answer ✓
I think there's potential for automated forestry to capture carbon, but the KS video doesn't really help me imagine how it would work. What would the robots actually do in the forest to capture a lot more carbon? How many different kinds of robots would it take? Can people do some of those jobs in the meantime while the robots are under development? Are there forests, even small ones, being managed this way today?

Rather than making one system to do all the forestry jobs, it's probably better to design one robot for one particular task that can save money for forestry companies. Once you have a business selling one kind of robot, expand outwards from there.


👤 tixocloud
Tyler, it sounds like you're quite passionate about robotics and the potential for addressing wildfire issues. Firstly, nothing wrong with continuing to fund yourself through a regular job while working on your passion. Folks love to glorify the all-or-nothing dynamic but frankly, there are plenty of folks who've done side hustles in order to get their startup up and running. Have you thought about consulting in an area where your potential customers are likely to be? This path lets you build expertise and network where your robotics solution could eventually be brought into. Best part is that you develop credibility and can adapt your solution to address exactly what the market needs and reduce your risk your failure.

In a similar position as yourself, I'm in deep tech and can share similar frustrations where funding is scarce and commercialization seems far away. Having attempted to fundraise, I can say that we've been blessed to be forced to bootstrap at this stage and are slowly identifying our commercial path. Happy to help you find a market.

The good news is that you are in a hot investment area and I can probably point you in the right direction with the right investors. Firstly, how far along are you? Do you have a prototype and have you spoken to potential customers?

One program that might be suitable for you is Creative Destruction Lab, who specialize in deep tech such as robotics (https://www.creativedestructionlab.com/program/). They don't take any equity and you'd have opportunities to be mentored and invested. I'd be happy to provide an introduction.


👤 itronitron
There are a number of farming tech related startups that would probably be interested in talking with you as your skills and interests may overlap with theirs. They occasionally post on the HN Who's Hiring thread. Hang in there!

👤 ChrisBode
There are various cultivating tech-related new businesses that would most likely be keen on chatting with you as your abilities and interests may cover with theirs. They every so often post on the HN Who's Hiring string. Hold tight! Wishing you a best of luck!

👤 maxwin
Perhaps try to register as a non profit organization and apply for institutional grants from foundations.

If you want to run it as a viable business, farming as other people mentioned has potential for disruption. But it might be a bit ahead of its time and more risky.

Another area that companies will pay big money for is manufacturing process automation.


👤 kyle_martin1
Tyler,

I would get a job that to provide yourself a safety net such that you can continue your passions. It doesn't have to be all or nothing!


👤 pinkrobotics
Kickstarter at: http://www.PinkRobotics.ca