HACKER Q&A
📣 golergka

Why did this article just silently disappear from the front page?


I managed to take a screenshot that shows this link on position 9:

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/

But after I read it, the 'discuss' link leads to empty page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24014806

Why was it removed?


  👤 ColinWright Accepted Answer ✓
In your profile set "Show dead" to "Yes" and two[0] submissions[1] show up ... there may be more. They have been flagged by "the community" and so are dead. As I write this I see that it has been submitted yet again[2].

Edit: Now that's flagged dead as well

Submissions are sometimes flagged as just being so far wide of the general community interest so as to be irrelevant to the vast majority. But sometimes they're flagged because they are divisive, and known (or expected) to produce flame wars and unpleasant exchanges.

But whatever the reason, it would appear that this article is thought to be interesting by some, and inappropriate by others. That's part of how HN works.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24015300

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24014806

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24019257


👤 nebukadnezar
It is pretty discouraging to see this kind of censorship happening. The article seems reasonable and if you disagree, good for you, argue about it or just get over it.

This whole woke stuff/cancel culture reminds me of the little red book waving youngsters during the cultural revolution in China.

Very scary to see this happening again.

The fact that this can be so easily be removed, suggest that the algorithm for flagging is not very good and needs to be improved.

As said above, discuss instead hide behind your cancel button.


👤 byoung2
From the guidelines[1]:

On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

Maybe enough people flagged it for being off-topic

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


👤 gwright
I think it is quite ironic that an article about an epistemology that rejects criticism of itself was flagged.

👤 totetsu
How any anything that has the word "woke" right there in the title be taken seriously? It's all a bit too Sea Liony. http://wondermark.com/1k62/

👤 gwright
Another attempt got to 7 points before being flagged and marked as dead:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24015300


👤 password4321
https://hckrnews.com shows dead discussions.

unfortunately it looks like http://hnrankings.info does not.

i don't think there's a way to find out exactly what happened without emailing the mods: hn@ycombinator.com. i also doubt they go into the details that much.


👤 bezmenov
I can attest to the page disappearing and appearing “empty”. The page is now back, although flagged and dead.

👤 8bitsrule
Tar baby.

👤 rotterdamdev
HN is ran by radical leftists, so no surprise.