HACKER Q&A
📣 fdeage

Any good alternative search engine not powered by Bing?


Ecosia, Qwant and the like seem like glorified Bing-wrappers to me (heck, I heard that even DuckDuckGo uses Bing results for some queries).

I understand that creating a search engine from scratch is very hard, but is there any engine that moderately succeeded? (in the Western world I mean)


  👤 qzx_pierri Accepted Answer ✓
Call me crazy, but I've been using Yandex a lot more recently. Political FUD aside, the results are pretty good, and completely unfiltered.

It reminds me of how wild and unfiltered the internet was back in 2007. However, I wouldn't recommend it to "casual" users. Using Yandex requires a bit more common sense than Google, because malicious domains show up every now & then. For power users (99.99% of HN), this isn't a problem.

With all things considered, it's totally worth it. I never realized how censored Google Search was until I stepped away. As a grown ass man, I don't want anyone telling me what I "cant see" or attempting to define what's "acceptable" - The freedom to choose is intoxicating almost.


👤 safary22
Building a proper search engine requires massive amounts of resources and a lot of engineering effort. Especially given the amount of content which exists out there today.

That said, the 10 blue links are becoming less and less important for most users. It is very important if you are searching for some obscure piece of information.

But the vast majority of queries can be broadly categorized as:

1. navigational queries - I'm trying to get to a site and I don't want/know to type the address, so queries such as "fb", "yt" or "bank of america"

2. trending news queries - something is in the news right now and you want to find articles

3. shopping queries - looking for products and doing product research

4. local queries - I want to find the details of that sushi place I like nearby

5. more niche experiences around various events

If you take a look at what Google and Bing are trying to do right now, they are moving away from what was customarily a search engine and more towards being a portal for you to consume all the content directly on their site (stuff like AMP is a good example).

While this is bad for the user on many levels, it does reduce the problem space for companies wanting to create a new search experience.

So the real question is, what are you searching for? if you are looking for a single search engine that can answer all of the above then you only have 2 options (in the US) If you are looking for a search experience that focuses on specific verticals there are many options.

One service I am interested in is Neeva Search https://neeva.co/ which sounds like they are building a more modern search experience which better fits with what users are doing today


👤 hieloz
Search engine list https://searchengine.party/. btw https://www.runnaroo.com/ was recently featured here,it seems fairly good in some respects.

👤 boogies
Searx https://asciimoo.github.io/searx/ is a (wrapper around | metasearch engine aggregating results from) >70 search services, including Bing and DDG, as well as Wikipedia, Reddit, etc. as configured by default when using one of the many public instances, but you can toggle aggregation from each one in the preferences (with or without hosting it yourself, eg. at https://searx.xyz/preferences under the Engines tab).

👤 timeattack
Yandex.com?