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📣 jmspring

Something like Khan Academy but full curriculum for grade schoolers?


Khan Academy continually gets held up as a great resource for online courses across the age spectrum for math related subjects. With the continuing pandemic continuing to grow in the US and schools not really sure how to handle things, the GF and I are looking into other options.

Is there a recommended resource that gives unbiased (as possible) reviews for middle school (7-8th grade) curriculum? Searching these days really doesn't bring up quality, just options one has to comb through.


  👤 actfrench Accepted Answer ✓
I'm a teacher with 15 years of experience and an edtech entrepreneur. I've reviewed thousands of secular homeschool programs for accuracy and quality. We're working on developing unbiased reviews of all of our favorites, but here are a few great all-in-one programs to get you started. All mastery-based, all secular and aligned with state standards. In general, these also combine hands-on projects with online learning, involve little to no prep time and minimal parent involvement in learning, with some element of personalization.

Critical Thinking Co https://www.modulo.app/all-resources/criticalthinkingco

Oak Meadow https://www.modulo.app/all-resources/oakmeadow

Time4Learning https://www.modulo.app/all-resources/time4learning

Moving Beyond the Page https://www.modulo.app/all-resources/moving-beyond-the-page

It's usually good to supplement with a math program, if your child is gifted or has special needs. Here is a review I wrote on what I consider to be the best math programs out there for parents doing learning from home. https://www.modulo.app/all-resources/the-best-math-programs-...

And here are my 50 favorites:) https://www.modulo.app/all-resources/50favorites

I would also be happy to give free advice to you (or any family reading this) for your particular situation. Feel free to reach out to me via my website if you'd like more personalized recommendations and we can find a time to chat:) https://www.modulo.app/


👤 Toyentrepreneur
I've done a lot of research on this topic, the short answer to your question is https://artofproblemsolving.com/

But during my research I came across the idea of "Computational Math/Thinking" which throws away the entire concept of learning Math/Science in the normal order

Pre Algebra > Algebra I > Geometry > Algebra II > Trig > etc

It takes more of a real life problem solving approach, which I understand isn't exactly innovative in and of itself but prioritizes using the computer for the calculation part of math.

Of course the process of using a pencil and paper to calculate an equation in probably 90% of the work in traditional curriculum. When you outsource this tedious part to software (like you would in real life) that leaves room for setting up bigger problems that literally cannot be calculated by hand.

https://www.computerbasedmath.org/ is a great resource for more info on this "computational" education


👤 krsmith35
Prenda (YC S19) has a full curriculum with support and tools for the parents, k-8. More info here: https://prendaschool.com/prenda-family

👤 tmaly
Ed Hirsh Jr has these guides What Your ___ grader needs to know. I know I have seen it up to 6th grade, but I am not sure if there is a version for 7th and 8th.

My daughter uses ixl.com at school and it covers all the way up to 12th grade. Its is essentially adaptive learning. So this is good for doing practice problems. All the topics listed there are ones kids are expected to know for the respective grade level. So you could use this as a map.

I have also been supplementing her education with workbooks. I have a few other ideas to make some practical learning lessons with electronics and chemistry. We already do Scratch programming.


👤 rhema
I would check in with a local homeschooling Facebook group for 1-on-1 support. We've been homeschooling our kids. The 7 and 9 year old use Kahn Academy for math, which works really well. They also have grammar options they have started.

My opinion is that a "complete" education through 8th grade is a nebulous goal. Reading, writing, math, history, art, life experiences, etc. are important.


👤 pathikritb
Students (pre-junior / senior year of high school for simplicity) need active role models in school and at home for appropriate overall development. The role models are typically teachers in school and parents at home.

That students are struggling to engage with digital content during home quarantine is expected. The good news is that students will adapt to digital content with time (within twelve months as a simple estimate), as unlike adults, they are more likely to normalize their behavior towards this environment and make it the routine for their education. The bad news is that no digital curriculum alone can replicate the classroom learning environment (even with its obvious systematic flaws) because mastery of learning content is a function of the learning environment as much as individual student motivation (until these students become independent learners). So parents homeschooling their children need to become more active role models for their children. The positive of this situation is that educated and empathetic parents can do a much better job of developing a secure environment for children than a classroom with thirty students and a cacophony of technology. The long-term mission for homeschooling parents is to develop “self-directed learners”, and the first step is understanding, practicing, and celebrating “metacognition”.

I will share this link, for core science experiential learning lessons, primarily for middle school students, which may complement textbook content, associated with the concepts: https://science60.com/homeschooling

Good teachers and motivated parents can make any learning content work, from traditional textbooks to Khan Academy lessons.


👤 gregd
We homeschool our children and we also help run a homeschool academy. A lot of the kids love Outschool.

👤 2pointsomone
Look at EngageNY curriculum (which is really EL Education, Public Consulting Group, Eureka Math, Illustrative Math and a couple of other providers put together). It is pretty excellent, and free! You can also find curriculum from these individual providers separately.

Then, visit OpenUpResources. Same theme.

EdReports.org has curriculum reviewed to align with Common Core.

The above are mostly limited to ELA and Math, for Science, there is OpenSciEd, SCALE/SFUSD Middle School Curriculum, and Mystery Science, for Civics there is Annenberg Classroom, and rest of the social studies, I know some effort is going on, but can't quite remember where the curriculum might be.

The reason I know these is because I run opencurriculum.org (YC W14), and we are trying to bring this information under one roof.


👤 dc2019
My kids are younger than yours, so I can't say too much about curriculum for grades 7/8. But having spent quite a bit of time in homeschooling groups during the lockdown (we are not homeschooling but had to supplement), I've noticed these curriculums get discussed a lot.

For language arts: Michael Clay Thompson (we are using this), Brave Writer, IEW. For maths, Beast Academy or Art of Problem Solving for your kids (we are also using this, huge fan, great for full-time homeschooling or after school supplements in my opinion), Saxon Maths (mixed reviews). Science takes more sifting since quite a few are religious.

I noted all the programs I came across (mostly through mentions in homeschooling groups) in a list in case it's interesting to anyone (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/132lzqsfGzUvo7iPGrvBN...), do filter for subject and age to get the relevant entries. It's work in progress so excuse the mess.


👤 westurner

👤 cvhashim
I’m not sure about a full course. But I have a younger sibling going into 8th grade. He’s been doing learning on IXL to supplement his education this summer. It offers different subjects like math, language/literature, science etc. He’ll do that for 2-3 hours on weekdays.

👤 gmoore

👤 meeshmercer
I agree that Khan Academy is great for math. For a full middle school (and high school) accredited curriculum, you might check out Apex Learning Virtual School https://www.apexlearningvs.com. They offer live teaching and tutoring support, self-paced learning and a flexible schedule.

👤 vulcan01
I realise that your child isn't there yet, but once they reach high school, I'd recommend that you introduce them to edX, where there are tons of courses on practically everything, taught by college professors. It can help them expand their knowledge in areas they're interested in that aren't in the standard school curricula. It's pretty awesome (high school student here).

https://www.edx.org


👤 underwear
My kids go to a microschool in Washington DC. They are developing a full curriculum with the idea that you learn from the resources around you (specific to your town city). They have developed an APP with weekly menus for the kids. During COVID thay crushed it, kids 4 ids learned more in three months than they have in a year. great for travel too www.mysaschool.org

👤 niekmaas
Perhaps aimed at a lower age group, but I think https://www.e-learningforkids.org/ should also be mentioned. They provide free primary school education for all kids. Currently mostly focused on math though.

👤 elxavicio
Not for grade schoolers, but I just started this program (https://busytoddler.com/) for my 3-year-old. Gives you a lot of ideas and a specific schedule to follow which helps a lot!

👤 idoh
I have been looking for this as well. So far Khan Academy has been brilliant in remote math curriculum, in fact my children are learning math faster in Khan Academy than with IRL instruction. If there was something equivalent for writing I'd be over the moon happy.

👤 ParatusPlayer1
Not quite what you are asking for, but there is a great tool called Kickstand (www.kickstandsystems.com)that is in use in a number of districts that allows curriculum to be aligned with standards and organized in a defined scope and sequence. At the core of the systems is a big standards aligned curriculum library. The system will deliver content to a student and then assess them on that content. Based on the result of the assessment the system can deliver new resources for remediation or allow the student to move ahead at their own pace. Content is managed by the district and allows content ratings by students and instructors. This is really where learning technology needs to go to enable individualized instruction in online settings at scale. Full disclosure: I wrote the first version of the Kickstand product about 5-6 yrs ago

👤 homeschooldad
You might find https://JoinPrisma.com to be an interesting option if you’re looking for both curriculum and the support of a qualified teacher.

👤 MattGaiser
This would be an excellent open source project for those outside the software space.


👤 lanecwagner
I'm actively building a solution for programming related content, with the goal being that courses feel like games:

https://qvault.io


👤 intrepidhero
https://cathyduffyreviews.com/ is a resource that my wife likes for curriculum reviews.

👤 organicfigs
IXL Learning https://www.ixl.com/

👤 j45
Yes, there is a lot like this out there.

The question I would have for you is what state are you looking for? Thanks.


👤 edu-marian
What's your opinion on educational games?

👤 aok1425
Maybe junilearning.com?

👤 jbanfill
ck12.com has a full range of textbooks available at no cost

👤 mahaganapati
Girlfriend and you have children together? You should get married :)