HACKER Q&A
📣 MKais

How do you deal with family members who are into conspiracy theory?


How do you deal with family members who are into conspiracy theory?


  👤 iateanapple Accepted Answer ✓
What kind of conspiracy theory?

If it’s the “people” kind then what you have to realize is actual conspiracies happen all the time - there are many interwoven plots, ulterior motives, and hidden agendas going on all around you.

People are generally good at noticing that something doesn’t add up - much worse at working out what might have actually happened.

They have also been lied to and mislead by our institutions often enough that they are unlikely to trust your sources or corrections.

The only long term solution I can think of is to clean up our institutions - but that won’t happen overnight.

If it’s the “flat earth” kind - overall these people are higher than average intelligence and fairly well versed in the topics they are discussing - and so unless you yourself understand the subject matter they will run circles around you.

This second group are actually really interesting to talk to and ask interesting questions - for example why do pilots fly without adjusting for the curvature of the earth? Why do many long distance snipers not adjust for the curvature of the earth? Etc etc.

I’m sure there are great scientific explanations - and I’m also sure that many in the flat earth crowd would listen.


👤 alexmingoia
I would remind them that the conspiracy has no impact on their life and they are powerless to do anything about it, so why focus on it?

Them: “The earth is flat! They’re trying to hide it from us!”

Me: Okay. So what?

I wouldn’t try arguing with them. It’s usually futile and reinforces their sense of superiority they derive from knowing the “truth.”


👤 verdverm
That's a tough one because logic and fact does not work. There are some previous threads and posts on HN. Try searching around with the advanced filters.

Here are a few links I grabbed some time ago

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/07/qanon-isn...

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nbcnews.com/think/o...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/201911/...


👤 rboyd
I sit them down, pull out the list of conspiracy theories which turned out to be proven true, and explain to them that these are the only conspiracy theories that deserve any time and attention. All future conspiracy theories should be rejected instead of analyzed, and we should always try to align with the mainstream.

👤 chrisbennet
Something I learned a decade ago was that facts often don’t change people’s mind.

Before I learned that, I would try to change other people’s views with facts. Now, I don’t try so hard since I know it won’t make any difference. Love the conspiracy believer for their other qualities and ignore their crazy ideas.


👤 kleer001
Aim the conversation towards their feelings instead of "facts" or the "truth".

Here's some structure to pull from :

https://www.cnvc.org/training/resource/needs-inventory

https://www.cnvc.org/training/resource/feelings-inventory

The needs:feelings model from the Non Violent Communication course is great.


👤 farseer
What kind of conspiracy theory? A percentage, no matter how small high stakes events regarding money, power and fame are considered a conspiracy until one day they aren't and its all real.

👤 Spooky23
Talk to them but avoid social media. Eventually people return home and you should try to be a friend if that is something you can deal with.

👤 verdverm
Q Anon, the main active right wing group has one of their main sites here: https://qmap.pub You can see the gamification instantly. They employ techniques in psychology, advertising, and much of what has been learned from modern dark patterns.

Are you dealing with the left or right conspiracy theory?

(assuming right because that's the main one I'm hearing people having concerns about family getting deep into)


👤 seattle_spring
Block them from Facebook and only see them at family functions like weddings.

👤 Vinceo
Like the one involving trump and russia?