Recently I have been day dreaming about VR whiteboards and tablet assisted whiteboards as I feel the tactile sense of a pen would help.
What are you using today?
1) Get the cheapest iPad that supports the Apple Pencil. The 2018 non-Pro was this for me last I looked.
2) Get the Google Jamboard app (not the Jamboard hardware, it is not at all worth it).
3) Share the "jam" with yourself on a different device (a nearby laptop)
4) Screenshare the laptop.
Things I think any virtual whiteboard scheme needs to have:
1) You need to be able to see people's faces! If you can't see the people in the video call, good luck having anything feel natural.
2) See #1 again. Having the laptop drive the video call is important so you can configure it to see everyone's face while you present.
3) being able to use a pen to write and a finger to erase (if you have to open a menu, fail. sadly the jamboard app also gets this wrong though their way overpriced hardware gets it right)
4) ideally you have the ability to have an infinitely scrolling whiteboard. Jamboard doesn't do this, but it's close.
The Jamboard app also works on phones so other people can fairly easily join in and contribute. This scheme has its problems, but holy crap, so many whiteboard apps focus way too much on fancy new widgets and shapes and text and whatever and not enough on getting out of the way.
Christopher Chedeau did a recent talk on nice challenges they had building it in the open https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fix2-SynPGE
I want to build a plugin for Figma to embed Excalidraw inside Figma as I use Figma for all my design work already.
For more technical whiteboards, I've been using excalidraw. I like presenting the "drawn" look to help imply that this is an unfinished idea and we're sketching the concepts out.
Now he has two problems.
I am the main developer, and I have been maintaining and using it for several years now. Some of its advantages :
- It is fully open-source, free, and without advertisement. You can easily deploy it to your own server.
- All the whiteboards have an infinite size.
- It is fully web-based, you can use it without installing anything, even on relatively old browsers.
- It's translated in several languages.
- It's actively developed. In-development features include image upload, element resizing, new tools, and others...
[1] https://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-tablets/wacom-intuo...
>> I don’t want to look like promotional, but recently a professor used an Osmo reflector (https://twitter.com/romps/status/1237617042338897921?s=12) to project class notes and it caught on with teachers.
>> A team worked through the weekend and released a free app to make this super easy (https://twitter.com/PlayOsmo/status/1241152565083090947).
>> While the base + reflector is not free, if you already have an Osmo game at home, you can reuse that.
hope that helps
Its based on the idea that for most system diagrams, you just need boxes, text and arrows. everything else is superfluous. Its collaborative by default so you can invite someone to join you with the URL. The tools aren't discoverable yet, so to use it:
- option(⌥) + click to create a box
- option(⌥) + drag to create a grouping box
- select a box and option(⌥) + click another to draw an arrow
- select a box and type to edit text
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For context, I spend much of my day designing in Figma, which I love as well, but not for whiteboard-style collaboration.
If it doesn't have to be collaborative, then I use Onenote, because the scribbles can be saved as meeting notes.
It helps that I work at MSFT and everyone uses Windows + has whiteboard installed.
I have no idea if it'll hold up under load, I guess let's see. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You can share the URL to collaborate with someone else.
Also comes with a presentation mode so you can walk through designs and have others on it follow along.
Compatible with iPad and Apple Pencil, which I recommend over the browser for markups.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/microsoft-whit...
There are some things Figma isn't intended (and as such very good fit) for though, like diagramming/flowcharts, or marking up PDF's - haven't found great multiplayer web apps for those.
Feels like concurrent multiuser editing is something that a lot of software would benefit from - maybe something we will look back in 5 years as being weird it didn't exist and we had to send files back and forth to work on something together. Would make working together on almost anything easier remotely.
Miro and Mural are also quite nice collab tools, more limited than Figma but some nice things out of the box.
I've found Google Jamboard has the right mix of features and ease of use for collaborative exercises during training.
Everything else
I've introduced a few enterprise clients to Miro and they're running with it. I've been impressed with how they've employed it.
Gromit-MPX - Allows drawing overtop whatever screen/window you'd like.
Wacom Intuous - Much nicer to draw with than a mouse or finger.
https://github.com/bk138/gromit-mpx
https://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-tablets/wacom-intuo...
Usually they support only C+z for undo.
Switching between pen and eraser by having to actually click an icon is fine on iPad but it drives me up the wall when I am using wacom tablet and keyboard.
Does anyone know application that supports keyboard shortcuts?
You can generate as many unique boards for free as you want here: https://interviewboard.io
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obeya
Then check out Iobeya:
Does one thing and does it very well.
Powerpoint and Slides are perfectly capable for drawing diagrams, or whiteboarding. Zoom screen share is low enough latency and you're already using it for voice comm.
So much better than anything else we tried at handling hierarchy (nested lists, sections, etc)
They're moving quite fast and seemingly in the right direction.
What we've settled on:
We do the video chat on an old fullscreen iMac we had lying around. My mom and each kid all have their own iPads. For the first couple of weeks we used a webwhiteboard, but the littles were having a LOT of trouble with it. It's not optimized for iPads. It's easy to click on links in the nav. Different size screens see different regions of the whiteboard. My niece and son kept clearing each other's work and causing fights.
I ended up building a little prototype for them with rails/websockets that tried to solve all the dumb stuff that makes it hard to use it on iPads. Apple really doesn't make it easy, though. You can bookmark a page to your homescreen to get rid of the Safari chrome (URL bar is the worst for 5yos), but then you can't have cookies and regular usage (maybe just while fullscreen?) will prompt you that the webpage is trying to steal your passwords (fake keyboard warning). Guided access gets rid of most of the obnoxious gestures they were triggering by accident. I disabled most of the multi-touch events in javascript.
I fixed the board size with selectable orientation (portrait/landscape) and set it to scale + aspect-fits to everyone's device. I added a simple host/guest permission model so my mom has a few teacher permissions that the kids don't have. She can either be in teacher mode (she can draw/clear, they can't), class mode (anyone can draw/clear), or student mode where each kid gets their own private board that she can swap between (she can still draw/clear on student boards).
I was starting to work on more teaching features -- the ability for her to save/load sketches so she could do lesson plans ahead of time, the ability for her to "broadcast" saved boards to the student boards so she could make assignments for each 5yo to fill out. We had kind of a rough stretch where one of the kids or the other would forget their tablet for about a week, though, and my mom got fed up and just ordered them workbooks for all 3 of them that they could do together.
It's still running on Heroku, but I haven't been working on it much lately.
http://yiayiaboard.herokuapp.com/rooms/sLZqbw2KHWi
I think this is the right model for small-class whiteboards, but I think you'd have to build a native solution to make it usable for kids that small.
When it worked, it was pretty magical!